Everything I ever needed to know I learned (online) in kindergarten?!? (9751 weekly response #12)

26 Nov

Week #12…


Hard to believe 3 months have gone by…at the same time, given that I’m looking out on a snow covered yard, and sitting in front of a lit fireplace, warm sunny September seems very far away. And actually the fact that I’m AM sitting at home on my couch, in front of said fireplace, typing up this week’s response seems apropos: distance learning at it’s finest! (While I’d love to add a glass of wine to my perfect scenario as well, it’s still a bit early in the day…)

So this week’s focus is on blended or hybrid learning. So, to get started I read a couple of articles from the “EDUCAUSE” website, as well as listened to (my first) podcast.

I thought the podcast on online learning would be a good place to start. After all, I had just mentioned in a previous post “Mobile Me…in 5 years” that I had never listened to one, so I thought: “Here’s a prime distance learning opportunity!” The podcast was given by 3 directors of online learning from colleges/universities in the US.

What I found most interesting were the comments on teaching (I guess no surprise there…) and its role in online learning. That “good teaching is good teaching”, regardless of presentation format and that it is key to student retention and engagement. Really? What was the first clue? Sorry for the sarcasm. I have to be honest here, I have for the last year vented–to those who would listen (apologies if you were one of the kind souls)–about the fact that as an elementary or secondary school teacher, we have had explicit instruction on how to teach. Depending on the school, that equals 1-2 years of post-graduate level instruction on teaching philosophy, pedagogy, differentiate instruction, and the like. But post-secondary “teachers” need not have any “teaching” lessons at all. It really irks me that when education is free (K-12; of course, I realize that some pay for private school, but that’s usually by choice), teachers have to be certified. But when education gets costly (i.e. post-secondary), “teachers” need only be experts in their field of study: this does not always translate into “good teaching”. So, I felt somewhat validated when one of the online learning presenters, Ann Taylor, the Director of the John A. Dutton e-Education Institute at Penn State University, made similar comments. She went on to acknowledge that faculty development is particularly crucial to ensuring quality online courses. To that end, Penn State has created a “Managing Your Online Course” tool for professors which includes milestones/timelines as well as best practices and expectations. There is also the opportunity for peer review of online teaching as well.

Moving onto the readings…The first article I read was “Seven Things You Should Know About Flipped Classrooms“. I first heard about the “flipped classroom” this past summer from my brother-in-law. He and his family live in the Bay Area (near San Francisco) where there has been some experimenting with flipped classrooms–even for elementary students. Having never heard this term, he explained to me that this type of teaching had the “lessons” being “taught” at home, and the “homework” done at school. Now, I don’t remember how he described how the lessons were taught (video, podcasts, etc) but I do remember being confused about how it would work…

Having now read the article, I have to say my brother-in-law actually described it pretty well: basically, “…the lecture and homework elements of a course are reversed” (Educause, p. 1). As it’s further described, the “lessons” (most often in video lecture format) are viewed by students at home (or wherever their mobile device and access takes them!) so that class time is devoted to cooperative activities, or projects, or discussions.

Philosophically and pedagogically, I think this sounds like a great way to learn. Well, at least for me. I like the idea of being able to access the information first, think on it, and then come to class with the opportunity to discuss or apply it. For those of us who take some time to process and mull over information, it would allow time for questions to percolate, which we could then share (or ask for clarification) in class. In a F2F lecture, I’m so busy just listening, I’m often not able to contemplate or make connections to the information I’m hearing until later…and that’s when I realize that I either don’t understand something or come up with a question. Of course, I can always go see or email the prof, but sometimes what you don’t know doesn’t become clear until you’re talking about it with others or trying to apply it to a problem. So, for me, this idea of in-class time being “homework” time, sounds perfect.

However, I would suggest (and this was mentioned in the article), that this type of format puts the responsibility for learning squarely on the shoulders of the student: it is essential, that you come to class prepared in order that you are able to get the most of the session AND offer the most to your colleagues/classmates. I’d also have concerns about accessibility. Do all students have access to the lessons? Particularly since they’re in video format, do students have the bandwidth at home? That being said, seeing as these courses do include a F2F component, I guess we could assume students are on campus at some point, so perhaps they could access the lessons from a computer lab…? Although, assuming is never the right thing to do.

What I’m still curious about is how this works outside of post-secondary, or even secondary? How does it apply in the K-8 world? That’s something I still want to explore…

And actually, that works as a segue to article #2…Well, chapter 16 from the book Game Changers: Education and Information Technology: “The Postmodality Era: How ‘Online Learning’ is Becoming ‘Learning‘”. Essentially, the focus here (as I was able to understand) was the fact that the format of course presentation is less important to students than a) getting the courses they want/need and b) flexibility (having courses fit into lifestyle schedules).

Most of the information was of a post-secondary perspective, but skipping to the end of the chapter, there was a bit on the “K-12 Perspective”. Here I read something that made me give pause–or perhaps a gasp of sorts, would be more accurate. Of course we know that high school students can take courses online or in some form of blended learning format and that kids are taking these types of courses now more than ever. Furthermore, in some states (Michigan, Alabama, and Florida for example) now require students “…to take at least one online course in order to graduate” (Hartman, p. 225). And I have no particular issue with that: it’s good practice for both time management and post-secondary courses. In fact, Florida has “…mandated that each of its sixty-seven K-12 school districts provide virtual-learning options to students” (Hartman, p. 226). Here I thought to myself, but we’re really still talking about high-school…right? But then, the next sentence was a doozy (well, to me it was!): “…it is now possible for a student in Florida to complete his or her entire kindergarten-through-high-school experience completely online…”(Hartman, p. 226).


What and why do you need to learn online in kindergarten–or any of the primary years, for that matter?  I’m not saying that there aren’t valuable learning opportunities to be had using technology, for young learners. But I also believe in the importance of social and peer interaction, along with cooperative, hands-on learning; comments like this, even if only in theory, concern me. I bet the play-based learning people must be having a field-day with that one…


Cavanagh, T. B. (2012). The postmodality era: How “online learning” is becoming “learning”. In Game Changers. Retrieved from“online-learning”-becoming-“learning”

Educause. (2012, February 7). Seven things you should know about flipped classrooms. Retrieved from

Hartman, K., Wyatt, R., & Taylor, A. (2012, October 23). ERO podcast conversation: Online education. Educause. Podcast retrieved from

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